2024-07-11 Working Meeting

Meetings are public and interested parties are encouraged to attend. Meetings occur on the second Thursday of every month at the time indicated below.

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Number: 1-833-436-1163 Meeting Code: 864 509 369#

• Julie Stopar
• Mark McClernan
• Ross Beyer
• Marc Hunter
• Brent Archinal
• Sam Lawrence

• Checklist Updates:
  • ToDo
• Upload location/form:
  • ToDo

• FDP update (from Brent’s document):

• Another 2 data sets:

• Outreach:
  • Who to reach out to?
  • What to communicate?
  • Timeline?
• MAPSIT Question:
  • Jay provided a rough outline of a proposed order of operations:
  • A finding to the PAC articulates that the SDI exists, has adopted standards, and is the place to collect standards for ARD for the community.
  • A discussion and ultimately endorsement from MAPSIT for the lunar SDI standards saying that ’these are the standards that the community should adopt'.
  • A discussion between MAPSIT and LEAG (leadership?) seeking to gain a LEAG endorsement.
  • A subsequent finding to the PAC highlighting these endorsements and then asking for a NASA policy that ARD released data conform to Lunar SDI standards.
  • Would the term ‘recommended standards’ or ‘recommended best practices’ make sense? Is this a language concern? Replace the wording from ‘standards’ to ‘recommended standards’ / ‘recommended best practices’.
    • It is the word ‘standard’ that is challenging here.
  • Not clear that there is a NASA ‘place’ that would ingest and promote these standards to the community.
  • This should be discussed more with the MAPSIT steering committee. Not a lot of knowledge of what we are doing in MAPSIT / LEAG.
  • There is a lot of understanding within the PAC for the need to adopt best practices and standards.
  • Let’s also talk to Robin. Does she have a plan? We do not want to duplicate efforts or perform redundant actions.
  • Time to move to an educational role. This might feel like we are repeating and that’s good.
  • Collect as much feedback as possible. We, as a group, can then integrate that feedback.
  • Lesson learned - go slow and don’t ruffle feathers.
• Artemis Data Products
  • The goals of those products are different from the goals that we are promoting.
  • Sam’s thinking is to incorporate standards from the SDI when they make sense.
  • The Artemis group is committed to releasing data (when appropriate) to the PDS or a PDS equiv.
  • Unlikely to have any surprises in what is created.
  • Ingest-derived products are anticipated to be more challenging.
    • is the concern accuracy and/or interoperability?
    • For navigation, accuracy. Is the control sufficient? Is there a validation procedure for the given data product?
    • Standard control sooner, rather than later would be ideal.
  • For the L-Map (??) program, does a standard set of data products exist?
    • TBD. Sam doesn’t know.
  • Are the Artemis data controlled access?
    • Again, unknown. Unlikely outside a small group doing specific work.
• How about VIPER?
  • Largely confirmation, most likely.
  • Ross might have a look to see where they overlap.

• MAPSIT, send standards links and present to MAPSIT. The goal in the fall is to get feedback from MAPSIT (and/or LEAG).
• LEAG - put in an abstract for us and request a talk. The meeting is in October. LINK. Abstracts are due August 14.
• Ross - will compare some VIPER product(s) to the LunarSDI standards.

September 8 @ 2PM MDT.